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Dr. Rachel Kleinfeld: What Causes Political Violence?

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Dr. Rachel Kleinfeld: What Causes Political Violence?

Dr. Rachel Kleinfeld discusses political violence, the possibility of a Civil War, and extremism.

Rachel is an expert on democracy, security, and international relations. She’s currently a senior fellow in Carnegie’s Democracy, Conflict, and Governance Program, where she regularly briefs the governments of the United States and allied democracies on issues of conflict, the rule of law, and policing and security sector reform. Her most recent book, A Savage Order, examines ‘why democracies are crippled by extreme violence and how they can regain security.’


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